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[Fw: CSSU meeting ]
Ивайло Димитров
2012-08-02 08:38:47 UTC
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Hi all,

Following the attached mail, I would like to propose a meeting of CSSU team and everyone who is involved/interested. The meeting to be help on #maemo-ssu IRC channel on freenode.net , today, 02.08.2012 18:00 UTC.

Topics to be discussed:

1. Inclusion of kernel replacement in CSSU (community kernel) and possibilities of a kernel upgrade to a newer version.
2. Upgrade of toolchain used to build CSSU stuff.
3. glibc/kernel pselect() fix and evaluation/planning of glibc upgrade to a newer version.

Regards,

Ivaylo Dimitrov (freemangordon)
Marcin Mielniczuk
2012-08-02 20:55:01 UTC
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I resend this as I sent it from wrong mail address :P
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Iván Gálvez Junquera
2012-08-17 16:16:10 UTC
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Hi

I'm resending this message as I have noticed that it was rejected by
maemo-developers mailing list as I wasn't properly subscribed.

I'd also like to comment that it would be useful to have scheduled
meetings, considering the big momentum and the quantity of developers and
contributors that CSSU is receiving. At least if it doesn't increase the
overhead of the project.

Merlin1991,

Being the maintainer of CSSU, could you please provide, maybe via mailing
list, the minutes of the meeting with a brief summary of the decisions
adopted?

I know that logs are available, but there has been a lot of argumentation
after the meeting, and It is appreciated if you can clarify which direction
that is going to be adopted, specially about KP.

Regards and thanks for all the time you are investing on this.

Regards
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Date: 2012/8/11
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [Fw: CSSU meeting ]
To: maemo-***@maemo.org, ***@maemo.org
Cc: ИвайлП Д <***@abv.bg>, Christian Ratzenhofer <
***@yahoo.de>


Merlin1991,

Being the maintainer of CSSU, could you please provide, maybe via mailing
list, the minutes of the meeting with a brief summary of the decisions
adopted?

I know that logs are available, but there has been a lot of argumentation
after the meeting, and It is appreciated if you can clarify which direction
that is going to be adopted, specially about KP.

Regards and thanks for all the time you are investing on this.
Post by Marcin Mielniczuk
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I resend this as I sent it from wrong mail address :P
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Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 18:50:10 +0200
Subject: Re: [Fw: CSSU meeting ]
**
Hi,
I have some debug info about eglibc I compiled but causes many problems.
I'm attaching gdb logs from Calendar and Angry Birds Classic for MeeGo,
the 2nd one run thru MeeCoLay. Calendar from libc6 2.10 only, the AB
problem exist with both version of glibc. hth.
I've got some more info about problems with libc6 from "gcc 4.6 and
fremantle thread", I'll send it later.
I'm not at home and have a limited internet access, so I won't be able to
attend.
--
Sent from my Nokia N900
Marcin
Post by Ивайло Димитров
Hi all,
Following the attached mail, I would like to propose a meeting of CSSU
team and everyone who is involved/interested. The meeting to be help on
#maemo-ssu IRC channel on freenode.net , today, 02.08.2012 18:00 UTC.
1. Inclusion of kernel replacement in CSSU (community kernel) and
possibilities of a kernel upgrade to a newer version. 2. Upgrade of
toolchain used to build CSSU stuff. 3. glibc/kernel pselect() fix and
evaluation/planning of glibc upgrade to a newer version.
Regards,
Ivaylo Dimitrov (freemangordon)
<Attachment> CSSU meeting
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Ивайло Димитров
2012-08-18 08:38:46 UTC
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afaik merlin1991 is on holiday till monday, with "flaky inet"
:).



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От: Iván Gálvez Junquera
ОтМПсМП: Fwd: Fw: Re: [Fw: CSSU meeting ]
ДП: maemo-***@maemo.org
ИзпратеМП Ма: Петък, 2012, Август 17 19:16:10 EEST


Hi

I'm resending this message as I have noticed that it was rejected by maemo-developers mailing list as I wasn't properly subscribed.

I'd also like to comment that it would be useful to have scheduled meetings, considering the big momentum and the quantity of developers and contributors that CSSU is receiving. At least if it doesn't increase the overhead of the project.


Merlin1991, Being the maintainer of CSSU, could you please
provide, maybe via mailing list, the minutes of the meeting with a brief
summary of the decisions adopted? I know that logs are
available, but there has been a lot of argumentation after the meeting,
and It is appreciated if you can clarify which direction that is going
to be adopted, specially about KP.
Regards and thanks for all the time you are investing on this.

Regards
---------- Forwarded message ----------

From: Iván Gálvez Junquera ***@gmail.com >
Date: 2012/8/11
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [Fw: CSSU meeting ]
To: maemo-***@maemo.org , ***@maemo.org

Cc: ИвайлП Д ***@abv.bg >, Christian Ratzenhofer ***@yahoo.de >


Merlin1991,


Being the maintainer of CSSU, could you please provide, maybe via mailing list, the minutes of the meeting with a brief summary of the decisions adopted?

I know that logs are available, but there has been a lot of argumentation after the meeting, and It is appreciated if you can clarify which direction that is going to be adopted, specially about KP.



Regards and thanks for all the time you are investing on this.

2012/8/2 Marcin Mielniczuk ***@linux.pl >











I resend this as I sent it from wrong mail address :P

--

Sent from my Nokia N900

Marcin





---------- Mensaje reenviado ----------
From:
Marcin Mielniczuk ***@gmail.com >
To:
"ИвайлП Д" ***@abv.bg >, maemo-***@maemo.org , ***@maemo.org


Cc:

Date:
Thu, 02 Aug 2012 18:50:10 +0200
Subject:
Re: [Fw: CSSU meeting ]







Hi,



I have some debug info about eglibc I compiled but causes many problems.



I'm attaching gdb logs from Calendar and Angry Birds Classic for MeeGo, the 2nd one run thru MeeCoLay. Calendar from libc6 2.10 only, the AB problem exist with both version of glibc. hth.



I've got some more info about problems with libc6 from "gcc 4.6 and fremantle thread", I'll send it later.



I'm not at home and have a limited internet access, so I won't be able to attend.

--

Sent from my Nokia N900

Marcin



On Thu Aug
2 2012 10:38:47 AM CEST, ИвайлП ДОЌОтрПв ***@abv.bg > wrote:
Hi all,
Post by Ивайло Димитров
Following the attached mail, I would like to propose a meeting of CSSU
team and everyone who is involved/interested. The meeting to be help on
#maemo-ssu IRC channel on freenode.net , today, 02.08.2012 18:00 UTC.
1. Inclusion of kernel replacement in CSSU (community kernel) and
possibilities of a kernel upgrade to a newer version. 2. Upgrade of
toolchain used to build CSSU stuff. 3. glibc/kernel pselect() fix and
evaluation/planning of glibc upgrade to a newer version.
Regards,
Ivaylo Dimitrov (freemangordon)
CSSU meeting









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Christian Ratzenhofer
2012-08-20 14:44:09 UTC
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The "meeting" basically had 2 discussion points:

#1 adoption of a kernel into cssu
#2 upgrade of the toolchain used to build cssu

As for the kernel, and the libc select/pselect bug that could be fixed
with an updated kernel we still haven't come to a clear decision.
freemangordon suggested to take the power kernel and strip it of
unstable patches, which leads to the problem of how to review the
patches kernel power contains.
Another solution would be to take the current nokia provided kernel
source and backport only necessary patches to keep a system that is as
stable as possible. For this job nobody stepped forward though.
I personally would prefer the second solution since it should be the
users choice if they want everything (or even a subset) of the
features/changes the power kernel brings to their device, whilst the
select/pselect bug has to be fixed regardless if the kernel is as stock
as it can get or if it's the power kernel.
Here we reached no real decision, but if a maintainer for a patched
stock kernel shows up it will be integrated quickly.

The upgraded toolchain is if anything something for future.
Cssu-thumb already uses an upgraded toolchain because otherwise it
wouldn't work, so it could provide a benchmark of the stability of a
chosen toolchain in the future, but there was no decision as to when or
if we change the toolchain that is is used for -testing and -stable.
afaik merlin1991 is on holiday till monday, with "flaky inet" :).
-------- ?????????? ????? --------
??: Iván Gálvez Junquera
???????: Fwd: Fw: Re: [Fw: CSSU meeting ]
????????? ??: ?????, 2012, ?????? 17 19:16:10 EEST
Hi
I'm resending this message as I have noticed that it was rejected by
maemo-developers mailing list as I wasn't properly subscribed.
I'd also like to comment that it would be useful to have scheduled
meetings, considering the big momentum and the quantity of developers
and contributors that CSSU is receiving. At least if it doesn't
increase the overhead of the project.
Merlin1991,
Being the maintainer of CSSU, could you please provide, maybe via
mailing list, the minutes of the meeting with a brief summary of the
decisions adopted?
I know that logs are available, but there has been a lot of
argumentation after the meeting, and It is appreciated if you can
clarify which direction that is going to be adopted, specially about KP.
Regards and thanks for all the time you are investing on this.
Regards
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: 2012/8/11
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [Fw: CSSU meeting ]
Merlin1991,
Being the maintainer of CSSU, could you please provide, maybe via
mailing list, the minutes of the meeting with a brief summary of the
decisions adopted?
I know that logs are available, but there has been a lot of
argumentation after the meeting, and It is appreciated if you can
clarify which direction that is going to be adopted, specially about KP.
Regards and thanks for all the time you are investing on this.
I resend this as I sent it from wrong mail address :P
--
Sent from my Nokia N900
Marcin
---------- Mensaje reenviado ----------
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 18:50:10 +0200
Subject: Re: [Fw: CSSU meeting ]
Hi,
I have some debug info about eglibc I compiled but causes many problems.
I'm attaching gdb logs from Calendar and Angry Birds Classic for
MeeGo, the 2nd one run thru MeeCoLay. Calendar from libc6 2.10
only, the AB problem exist with both version of glibc. hth.
I've got some more info about problems with libc6 from "gcc 4.6
and fremantle thread", I'll send it later.
I'm not at home and have a limited internet access, so I won't be able to attend.
--
Sent from my Nokia N900
Marcin
On Thu Aug 2 2012 10:38:47 AM CEST, ?????? ????????
Post by Ивайло Димитров
Hi all,
Following the attached mail, I would like to propose a meeting
of CSSU
Post by Ивайло Димитров
team and everyone who is involved/interested. The meeting to be
help on
Post by Ивайло Димитров
#maemo-ssu IRC channel on freenode.net <http://freenode.net> ,
today, 02.08.2012 18:00 UTC.
Post by Ивайло Димитров
1. Inclusion of kernel replacement in CSSU (community kernel) and
possibilities of a kernel upgrade to a newer version. 2. Upgrade of
toolchain used to build CSSU stuff. 3. glibc/kernel pselect()
fix and
Post by Ивайло Димитров
evaluation/planning of glibc upgrade to a newer version.
Regards,
Ivaylo Dimitrov (freemangordon)
<Attachment> CSSU meeting
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